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250GP vs 600s

by Julian Bond <julian_bond@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 26, 2008 at 07:17 AM

This one is fascinating to watch. Try this idea on for size.

A production motorcycle is one that is homologated for WSB, Superstock 
1000 or WSS600. The limits are rising to 3000 per year. If it's not 
homologated for this, it must be a prototype and therefore eligible for 
use in a GP formula. In other words, what used to be called a 
homologation special, a short run special version of a road bike, *may* 
get round the FIM-FGS****t agreement.

Of course the problem is that no manufacturer has ever produced a short 
run 600 special. But imagine that Honda produce a run of 100-500 
CBR600-RRSP with sand cast cases, barrels and heads. They could 
effectively create a one make replacement for 250GP. The bike would be 
like a Ten Kate WSS600 bike with any level of tune desired by the rules 
and at pretty much any price point from a Ten Kate WSS600 upwards. And 
you could imagine them selling engines to somebody like Moriwaki but 
being Honda they'd probably be leased and you wouldn't be able to get 
one without the right connections. And all the indications are that 
Honda want a one make Honda series.

And it's hard to imagine Suzuki or Kawasaki doing the same short run of 
a competitive bike and a bit of a stretch to imagine Yamaha doing it. 
Ducati know how to do this, with their long history of homologation 
specials, but they don't have a 4 and aren't likely to any time soon.

Now Dorna want to try and keep the price down, because one of the big 
stumbling blocks at the moment is Aprilia lease costs. So they're 
talking about dumb 1999 ECUs and carburettors! Along with steel valve 
springs, cam limits, crank/conrod/piston limits. The way they're talking 
it sounds like they want something sub-WSS600. Carbs, ferchrissake! 
Imagine a 120hp AMA FX [1] formula produced from bikes that never had a 
headlight in the first place.

But now look at KTM. They've got experience of supplying a whole series 
with bikes and they've got a 990-V4 back in the workshop. It would be a 
big step but I think they know how to build a prototype 500-twin in 
enough numbers and at a profit to produce a KTM one make series. And 
they're just crazy enough to take on Honda politically. KTM are on a 
roll at the moment and have big ambition. It's just about feasible that 
Aprilia could join them and produce a short run 500-twin based on the 
work they've done with their coming V4 or their SV450/550.

One further thought. If Aprilia is snubbed by all this, would Piaggio 
throw their hands up and just leave 125? Or are 125GP Aprilias/Gileras 
and Derbis just too im****tant as a marketing tool for their road bikes 
and scooters? Because KTM could turn 125GP into a one make series as 
well.

So as well as FGS****t-FIM vs Dorna-IRTA is this shaping up into a Honda 
vs KTM-Aprilia battle? With the other Japanese factories and Ducati 
standing on the sidelines because they can take it or leave it.

[1]Oh. Wait. You mean like Daytona SBK?
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250GP vs 600s
Julian Bond <julian_bo  2008-06-26 07:17:28 
Re: 250GP vs 600s
Mark N <menusbaum@[EMA  2008-06-26 07:23:54 
Re: 250GP vs 600s
Julian Bond <julian_bo  2008-06-26 15:23:34 
Re: 250GP vs 600s
"just bob" <  2008-06-26 15:19:37 
Re: 250GP vs 600s
Julian Bond <julian_bo  2008-06-27 07:27:58 

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